I know that post-punk isn't exactly a genre and I do like a lot of music from that immediate post-punk era - in fact, I think that the period from the late-70s to mid-80s represents the pinnacle of pop music in my lifetime. So it's a bit odd that whenever I hear or read of something as being post-punk, I expect it to either sound like Dead Kennedys or Wire. Of my recent post-punk-pop-postings, 100 Flowers fit that mould reasonably well, but 17 Pygmies' jazz and synth-pop couldn't be much further removed. 20/20 are something else again - classic 80s power-pop.